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Author Topic: OIL LEVEL INDICATOR - SIGHT GLASS - QUESTION  (Read 18807 times)
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« on: November 24, 2008, 08:26:07 PM »

OIL LEVEL INDICATOR - SIGHT GLASS

I changed oil and filter about two (2) months ago and put in Castrol Synthetic (1.5 litres).

I performed the check the way the manual says: Let bike run several minutes ... shut off ... wait three (3) minutes and view in indicator glass. It showed perfectly mid-range.

However, the last two days I checked it showed FULL (higher than "H" ... the whole glass showed oil). I checked before I rode and then AFTER riding 80 miles. Same thing: FULL - whole glass showed oil.

WHY?

Does oil expand?

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2008, 09:06:02 PM »

Unless someone added more, OR you got water in it ( oil would be milky)

I always check mine dead cold. I fill it to just under the full mark, and it stays that way until next change.

Id not use Full Syth in my machine, nor will most guys that make thier living repairing them.

What do they know that you dont?
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2008, 09:13:37 PM »

Can't answer why but Baby has done that before.

And, umm...UM Rider....why won't you use full synth?
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2008, 10:11:25 PM »

How did you check the level each time? On the sidestand or with the bike standing straight up? Always check the oil with the bike upright.

Also, was the engine warmed up both times you checked it?
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2008, 10:17:03 PM »

I always check with her on the center stand.  A few times, she wasn't fully warmed up so perhaps that affected her.  Nevertheless, I find she can be a bit inconsistent with how she shows
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2008, 02:32:14 AM »

Oil should be checked when it is cold and the bike upright.  Best if the level is just below the H mark.  Oil level will rise possibly due to gas leaking into the oil.  If water gets in the oil it will turn a milky white color.

When checking the oil the real check should be upon start up.  Start the bike level, watch the sight glass and make sure the pump is working.  This should be a habit to get into.  You will know that the pump is working because you will see the oil raise and then disappear from the sight glass.

Reason this is a good habit is that you know every time you take off that the pump is working.  If you do not do this you may be 5 or ten miles down the road and the engine will quit.  Remember, set bike level, check oil level, start bike, check oil pump working.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2008, 02:35:29 AM »

"A few times, she wasn't fully warmed up so perhaps that affected her" - you should always check the level cold BEFORE you start the engine.

If the level suddenly got higher you might have got some fuel into the crankcase - this can happen if you have a sticking float valve in a carby. If so you need to change the oil again since the fuel will thin the oil reducing its lubricating ability.

In this case the oil does not look any different colour but will feel a bit thinner and you will maybe be able to smell the gas if you drain off a sample.

edit: Darn, TD beat me to it  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2008, 02:50:37 AM »

That is okay, no reason that they should not hear it TWICE! Grin Grin Grin  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2008, 10:18:58 AM »

Thank you TD, that second part makes sense.  Check the pump is working, whoever would have thought of that  Grin

See, a year in here, and I'm still learning things!!
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2008, 03:47:34 PM »

Your quite welcome Sage.  It is just a little extra measure that can avoid a problem.  It only takes a few seconds extra but it gives you that piece of mind that the pump is working when you start out.

Hopefully it will never go bad but it can also let you know ahead of time if there is to much oil in the crankcase.  If after a minute you do not see the oil clearing from the sight glass then you know that you have a problem.  It could be a bad pump, fuel leaked in the crank case or water got in there.
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