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Author Topic: GV250 How To: Install Hard Boxes From Richard Jordan  (Read 4946 times)
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« on: April 14, 2007, 02:27:04 PM »

GV250 How To: Install Hard Boxes From Richard Jordan


Last season I had saddle bags on my bike. On humid days they would hang down to the point of almost touching the muffler. Then the conch's started falling off. Then some kind of fungus started growing on them. It was very frustrating. I decided for this season to get hard cases. I shopped all over the net trying to find a pair I liked. Nothing out there made me happy, especially after I saw the boxes Richard had. The boxes Richard provides are fairly priced yet good looking. The problem was shipping. It's very expensive. So I resolved to save my pennies and not settle for anything else.

Well, I finally received them today. The instructions provided by the manufacturer were not that great so here's my guide for installing the hard boxes.



What you will need:
  • 12MM Socket Wrench
  • 13MM Socket Wrench
  • 17MM Socket Wrench
  • 12MM Box End Wrench or Small Crescent Wrench
  • 13MM Box End Wrench or Small Crescent Wrench
  • 17MM Box End Wrench or Small Crescent Wrench
  • And of course, Coffee





For this article, I am using the RIGHT side of the bike for all instruction. The LEFT side is a mirror install of the right.

Start off by locating the fender rail hex cap nuts.



Using a 12MM socket on the nut itself and a 12MM box wrench inside the fender, remove the hex cap nuts. Take two of the short standoff nuts from the bolt kit and wrench tighten them on where the caps nuts had been using a 17MM socket or box end wrench.




NOTE: There are two types of standoff nuts in the bolt kit. Long standoffs and short standoffs with a shoulder. The above step uses the short standoff with the shoulder as seen on the left in the picture below.




When done your fender rails should have the short standoff nuts wrench tightened as shown in the picture below.




Unwrap the the mounting brackets. These are "L" shaped brackets that on the long end have a wish-bone appearance.



Place one of the long standoff nuts in between the wish-bones with the open threads facing outwards. Screw the inside threads onto one of the short standoffs that are attached to the fender rail. Do this with a second bracket as well.

NOTE: Do not wrench tighten! Hand tight only at this point.





NOTE: Before putting the boxes on the brackets, place the boxes on the ground with the backs facing you. You will notice that the holes drilled into the backside of the boxes are not centered. This is by design. The box with the holes closest to the left side goes on the right side of the box. The box with the holes closest to the right goes on the left side of the bike.




Take the RIGHT side box and place it on the mounting bracket and slide the back side holes over the standoff nut threads.




Take two hex nuts from the bolt kit and apply to the threads inside the box.

NOTE: Do not wrench tighten! Hand tight only at this point.




Take two hex head screws and two hex head nuts and bolt the bottom of the box to the bottom of the mounting bracket by inserting the screws from inside the box so that the threads are exposed outside the bottom of the box and screw on hex nuts from underneath.

At this point you should have the box basically installed but only hand tightened. Give the box a little shake for side to side to settle it on the mounting bracket. If everything looks good then wrench tighten all bolts.

On my bike, no amount of adjusting would make the box sit flat on the bracket. You can see this in the picture below.




If this is the case then you must do some bending as you do not want the box sitting on the edge of the bracket under load. Luckily the brackets can be adjusted with some slight judicious use of a crescent wrench. Take the box back off the mounting bracket and adjust accordingly.




Once "adjusted" re-mount the box and wrench tighten all screws and/or nuts using a 13MM socket or box end wrench. The box should now lie flat on the bracket.




NOTE: Be sure not to forget to tighten the long standoff bolt installed earlier.




Do the same to the left side of the bike and you should be done. Have fun, go grocery shopping, or just pack a lunch, and go.




Here are some extra pictures of the standoff assembly.

From the rear:



From the top:



From the front:
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2007, 03:38:46 PM »


Bill, nice pics, good job.  Those look really nice!  The color is good too. 
I know what you mean about your soft bags, i have ebay cheapos, and they
do come pretty close to the muffler.  They get the job for now, but i like those hard bags.
(i got what I paid for Smiley  )


P.S. looks like someone got their GV all shined up, it is really looking good. Now i have to get out
in the garage, you are making mine look bad.  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2007, 05:54:25 PM »

As far as Richard can remember, these are the first red hard cases he's sold in the U.S.


About two weeks ago I practically took the bike apart and cleaned it up. Took me just about all day. But it does look good. Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2007, 06:31:43 AM »

Da**! I just installed a pair of those boxes (along with a top/rear box) yesterday. If this had been up then, I might have saved myself about an hour.

Good instructions, Bill.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2007, 06:42:07 AM »

Sorry the help wasn't there when you needed it. Grin

Seriously though, it's just that kind of help I'm trying to provide. I'm thinking about getting the luggage rack and topcase next month so I'll do a writeup for that as well.

I think the one most people would want though is the engine guards. I'm hoping Robert C will do one when he installs his.

http://www.alternativecruisers.com/index.php?topic=3120.msg36078#msg36078
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2007, 10:23:17 AM »

Bill,

Something I have done to tidy up the inside of the boxes is to use the original fender rail cap nuts, instead of the supplied hex nuts, on the standoff bolts (I have also used washers underneath the cap nuts to prevent the lining being damaged when the nuts are tightened). I'm also thinking of replacing the hex headed screws with phillips headed screws, which should be a bit kinder on the things I carry.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2007, 10:24:40 AM »

Excellent! I wish I would have thought of that.
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2007, 03:54:55 PM »

Bill,

Something I have done to tidy up the inside of the boxes is to use the original fender rail cap nuts, instead of the supplied hex nuts, on the standoff bolts (I have also used washers underneath the cap nuts to prevent the lining being damaged when the nuts are tightened). I'm also thinking of replacing the hex headed screws with phillips headed screws, which should be a bit kinder on the things I carry.

You might also consider button caps, especially on the inside and especially if not stainless.  Easier to tighen/loosen with allen or T-handle tools than screwdrivers.  Whenever I replace bolts (and I've already done a dozen or so on my GV650) I use the stainless button caps.  Love 'em!
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2007, 03:58:29 PM »

Another excellent idea!
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2007, 07:20:48 AM »

Richard actually sold a set of red ones to me sometime last year.  Can't remember the exact month.  One of my friends has a GV-250 the same color as Bill's and his wife wanted to surpirse him with some goodies for his bike for his birthday.  She went to Richard's site and told me what she wanted, and I ordered them for her.  He was very surpirsed and very happy!!!  And I have been very jealous ever since he got those boxes!!  You are right about the included instructions, not alot of help.  Luckily I am pretty mechanically inclined, so it wasn't too hard to figure out.  I think I had them on in about 40 minutes or so.  Although having Bill's instructions would have helped make that time even shorter!

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