Turn signal cutting out

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At Monksville Reservoir Posted by tricolor1 on 04 Jun 2008 in Viewed 681 times 1280w X 1024h 385991 bytes

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[Editor]

Hey everyone, it's been a while.
Interesting problem cropped up a couple days ago, the right hand turn signal is cutting in and out. The left hand one is fine, seems to be no method to the madness sometimes it will work then it stops, bike on bike off seems to make no difference. The hazard relay will buzz when it isn't working leading me to think this is the problem, however the left hand signal has no problem. The relay is either working or not correct? It can't control one and not the other. When the signal is not working the hazards don't work properly either, and the indicator doesn't show up on the instrument panel.
Thoughts? Ideas?
Thanks.

[dpetrick]

First check the bulb, see if it is bad or loose in the socket.
Then, if that is not the problem, check for a broken wire or bad connection in the light housing, If not that check the rest of the wiring.

[ACD_Bill]

Especially check the wiring in the neck after checking the blinker switch itself for interior corrosion.

[Icedog]

If the hazards AND the blinker don't work properly its unlikely to be the blinker switch - does it effect BOTH front and back RH lights?

The relay is common to both left and right so that eliminates the relay and wiring to both the hazard and blinker switches. The hazard switch then goes to the diode pack before connecting to the right light wiring while the blinker switch connects directly to the right light wiring - I'm not sure of exactly how the wire from the diode pack and the wire from the blinker switch join but clearly the problem has to be from that join point on. If both front and back are affected then the problem is that join or perhaps a common wire from that join to the wire linking front and back (again not sure of the exact physical connection or just where it/they are on the bike). If only one of the lights is affected then start at that bulb and work back.

[Editor]

Thanks everyone.
Already checked all the bulbs and wiring I could get at, haven't started to disassemble to much yet, all in good shape also switch seem fine as well.
Icedog, yes it effects front and back exactly the same. Stupid question, is the diode pack before or after the relay? I'll see if I can trace to that point.
Cheers

[Icedog]

+12V goes to the relay, then to the 2 switches, then the hazard switch goes to the diode pack then 2 connections to the 2 pairs bulbs, while the blinker switch has 2 connections straight to the 2 pairs of bulbs. The diode pack is located next to the battery (- note that there are 2 - the other is for the side stand) near the blinker relay.

Given both front and back are effected its probably a short to ground - it could be anywhere on the wiring between the front and back bulbs (light green wire) including the wire to the diode pack (again light green) or the wire to the blinker switch (light green) since they are essentially all the one wire.

Most likely places are the wiring around the neck since this is where all the flex occurs and around the battery where it might get pinched or where the wiring passes thru the front fork brace where the front blinker arm bolts on or the wire under the rear fender (dang US terminology ) where the blinker stalk mounts. The harness along the frame is pretty static so far less likely to develop a fault.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.

[Editor]

Thanks again Icedog.
No luck so far, everything I've checked seems to be fine.
I decided to run out to my mechanic a couple days ago and the whole da** way I couldn't replicate the problem, of course today it's up to its old tricks!
Amazing how a small thing can be so frustrating! Enough to drive you to drink, of course it's a really short drive anyway 
I'll let you know how it turns out.
Cheers

[Lmbrguy]

Did you check your flasher module ?

[Icedog]

Did you check your flasher module ?

he say sit only effects the RHS hence can't be the flasher relay. If the relay "buzzes" I would think this further supports an intermittent short circuit in the RHS light wiring, the problem with intermittent short is they are very hard to find

[ChandlerAZgv650]

I had a problem with the blinker.
There was a short  (at 6k approx) under the back fender.
The wires come from the bottom of the battery box, then under the fender where the elements and dirt and rocks
bombard them.
I found the faulty one.
Then, I used a small plastic freezer bag (you know, like ziplock) then wrapped those wires as best I could.
It looks hideous, but, of course it is all tucked out of sight under the fender and no one can see it.

I ASSUME you are using a voltmeter and a continuity tester.

IF you are not having any luck moving from the switch forward.... try going from the appliance backward.

You display the symptoms of a loose ground.

Since one side works, it is easier to figure out which wires should be hot / grounded on the other side.

There is a great wiring diagram on the download site here that you can use for reference.

Good luck!

Plus, I did see a new turn signal switch for like $33 on Richard Jordan site, didn't I?

You could be correct.... the switch broke!