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Author Topic: GV250 How To: O-Ring Replacement By: billynono  (Read 3205 times)
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« on: October 23, 2006, 03:38:25 AM »

I got my '04 gv250 Sport in January and had been having that problem until about a week ago. Etokar said that his fuel leak was from the line leading out of the petcock, but mine was from the petcock, itself. This is what I did to fix it. This works best if the gas tank is empty or low on fuel.

1) Go to Harbour Freight (or similar hardware supplier) and get a Metric O-Ring set.
2) Remove the front saddle.
3) Remove the 2 bolts securing the gas tank.
4) Turn the petcock to "off".
5) Disconnect the fuel line from the petcock (NO SMOKING!).
6) Gently lift the tank from the stern and disconnect the fuel gauge connector.
7) The object here is to get the relative fuel level in the tank below that of the openening where the petcock bolts to the tank (re:"empty or low on fuel"), but DO NOT remove the tank and turn it up-side down or lift the rear end of the tank so high as to let fuel escape through the fill hole if it were open. The tank lid may leak, and the paint on it is not fuel-proof. If the tank is too full to do this, drain the tank into a gas can or ride the bike until you are nearly into the "reserve" condition. I drained my tank by using a similarly sized four foot length of fuel hose that I had on hand (opening the fuel tank lid speeds the process). I then had a friend hold the tank in that position, but you could probably use a piece of 2x4 or similar support. There is no need to remove the petcock from the tank unless you intend to inspect the fuel filter, etc.
 Cool There are two o-rings that I replaced. One is inside the petcock above the bottom cup; the other is behind the ON-OFF-RESERVE selector (on my bike, this is the one that turned out to be leaking). Remove the cup with the approriate wrench (be gentle, the plastic is soft). Use a dental tool or similar hooked tool to remove the o-ring from the petcock and match it to one from the kit. Use a SMALL flat-blade screwdriver and gentle pressure to seat the new o-ring inside the petcock. I coated the o-rings with petoleum jelly. Bearing grease would work, as well. Reinstall the threaded cup. Be careful not to scratch or score the inside of the petcock when removing or installing the o-rings.
9) Holding the fuel selector lever, back out the set screw below the selector until the selector pops out into your hand. Removing the selctor and spring, you will see an o-ring inside. Remove this, match and replace it from the kit in the same manner as before. Reinstall the spring, fuel valve and set screw.

Oh, yeah, reconnect the fuel gauge , lower the rear end of the tank and reinstall the tank bolts and front saddle.

It is probably possible to get just the two o-rings needed from a parts supplier, but I don't know the sizes or part numbers. I opted for the o-ring kit, thinking that I'll need them somewhere down the line.

Hope this helps!

By the way, my leak was more noticeable when the tank had greater pressure in it, for example, a full tank on a hot day.

Bill Ard
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 12:54:42 PM »

Hi Bill, I'm in the process of doing this myself and when taking the gas tank off, I wasn't paying too much attention until I realized, "uh oh, where did those hoses come from?" The one hose from the bottom of the gas tank, I assume, is an overfill tube and probably gets threaded down thru the frame near the bigger oil overflow tube (I think that's what it is)... does that sound right?

Then there another tube coming off the carbs. Actually, it's 2 tubes coming off each carb that merge into one tube and then goes about a foot and doesn't attach to anything. I didn't notice that one until I took the gas tank off. Does that connect somewhere or just hang loose? and if it hangs loose, where does it go?

Thanks,
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 02:18:08 PM »

The parts catalog lists three hoses. #9 is a drain hose. #7 and #7-1 it lists but doesn't explain.


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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 03:02:04 PM »

Thanks Bill! That #9 hose confirms that it's the fuel tank drain. The other 2 hoses are not the ones I'm puzzled over though. If you were to look at the left side of the bike, right under the gas tank, closer to the front, are the carbs and there's a hose coming out of each one of the float assemblies (you really have to have the gas tank off to see these). Then they come together into one hose that extends a little over a foot. Mine is not connected to anything on that end and it seems to short to be a drain hose, but I don't know. I can't find anything that looks like a nipple or anything that it would connect to, so maybe it is some sort of drain or air hose.

On the GV250 Parts Catalog pdf, these hoses seem to appear on FIG. 10, but I'm not sure if they are parts 53, 55, 57 & 58 or if they're parts 76, 77 & 78. I just can't tell from the picture. I'm going to keep looking around to see if I can find something that says what connects to what. Thanks for your help.

John

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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2006, 03:13:36 PM »

Can you tell if they are sourced from the front of the carbs or the back at all?

We need Mike (panthercat) in on this conversation. He's had his engine apart and could probably tell us right off. Krage could probably tell us as well.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2006, 03:32:28 PM »

If you're looking at the left-side with gas tank off, the hoses are coming out near the top of each of the float assembly covers... very visible just looking straight at them. They immediately come together with a little T-fitting and then after they merge, the one hose extends toward the rear for a little over a foot. As I've said, it's not connected to anything and don't know if it should be or not.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2006, 04:23:07 PM »

On my bike what you are describing are the larger hoses that extend to the back and end near the fuel pump. From what I have been able to discern that is a vent hose for the float chambers. The smaller diam. hose that comes from the bottom are drain hose. I took the float chamber cover off of one carb to verify. The drain screw may not come out easily, it felt like the head may do the Phillips mangle dance.

 Any way long story short:
Large diameter hose from top is vent hose.
Small diameter hose from bottom is drain hose.(good luck with drain screw)
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2006, 04:25:59 PM »

Oh yeah by the way, there was a small box sitting on my desk when I got home today.
I have new rings for my bike!
Mike
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2006, 04:37:40 PM »

On my bike what you are describing are the larger hoses that extend to the back and end near the fuel pump. From what I have been able to discern that is a vent hose for the float chambers. The smaller diam. hose that comes from the bottom are drain hose. I took the float chamber cover off of one carb to verify. The drain screw may not come out easily, it felt like the head may do the Phillips mangle dance.

 Any way long story short:
Large diameter hose from top is vent hose.
Small diameter hose from bottom is drain hose.(good luck with drain screw)
Mike

Thanks Mike. I knew you'd have the answer.

Now get out there and get those rings in!!! Grin
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2006, 04:46:41 PM »

If only it were so simple.
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