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Author Topic: Hyosung GT250R Speedo Problem  (Read 3500 times)
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« on: April 11, 2011, 05:19:46 AM »

*** Owner Alert ***

GT250R - Arguably Hyosung's #1 best selling model.

A compatibility issue has been revealed, though no official bulletin has been received yet about this issue.


The latest GT250R Replacement Speedometer Units are NOT compatible with the earlier GT250R models.

The previous models had a Black Speedometer Dial and the replacement units have a White Speedometer Dial. The difference and the problem is not the color - it is the wiring.

Please see the pictures below. Notice the wiring is different on each Speedometer Assembly.

The Kicker: The Black model GT250R Speedometer Assembly is discontinued. You will not be able to replace it. If you see a model in a show room DO NOT BUY IT - you will not be able to replace speedometer.

Hyosung have suggested a solution to this screw up by saying the Speedometer Board or computer part is compatible with the older model Speedometer units but Hyosung have only a few of these - certainly not enough to cover the thousands of bikes on the road.

Also the computer boards are the only part that can be replaced so if an older GT250R has sustained sever front end damage and entire Speedometer Assembly is damaged the bike is a write-off as the Speedometer Assembly can't be replaced.

Whoever designed or ordered or approved the incompatible Speedometer Units might want to lay low for awhile.







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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 05:22:49 AM »

Replacement Speedo Board - not sufficient quantities to cover all bikes on the road.



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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 05:33:59 AM »

Thanks for the heads up Richard!
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 06:05:08 AM »

Side note:

I got an SOS message from some US Air Force members in Kunsan saying. "Help - we can't fix our bikes - GT650s". It is no breach of security (OPSEC) to say that the US have been on intensive excercises recently due to many events in Korea in the last year. These guys are BUSY and don't have much free time.

A bunch of guys there have GT650s - while other military members are buying Japanese and Harley bikes these guys got into the Korean spirit and bought Hyosung and made a little Hyosung club there.

However, they need to replace several GT650 Analogue Speedometer units on their bikes and they keep hitting brick walls everytime they try.

They gave me a call and I drove my GT250 down there last week - 4 1/2 hour drive each way - stayed overnight. I went everywhere and nobody could get replacements for these guys. Even Hyosung HQ in Chang Won can't get parts for these guys.

When I told the guys this they were understandably pissed. They asked how the Koreans would feel if they grounded all their aircraft that protect South Korea and then explained to the Koreans that they can't protect them because they can't get the parts to repair their planes.

Anyway, I'm still looking for parts for them, probably have to be used. These guys are run ragged with all their drills and when they do get a day off after working 10 days straight a nice bike ride would be nice - their thoughts were good supporting Korea and buying a Korean bike - now it would be nice if the Koreans (S&T Motors) recognized their effort and actually got some parts for these dedicated people.

Not sure of the future of this Hyosung club - moral is low in the club at the moment. They feel really let down.

On a positive note my GT250 was a champ on the ride down and back and I've never been to that part of Korea before. And I have stockpiled parts for my bike for the day Hyosung disown my bike as one of their products.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 07:09:32 AM »

Richard,

Would swapping boards not be as simple as repinning the connector? Are the actual signal inputs different, or just the layout of the pins on the connector?

While not a direct swap, I can't believe they'd be completely incompatible, but then again I guess I need to consider the company we're talking about here.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 07:48:07 AM »

They say that the boards are a straight swap but this is not something that the customers should be worried about. S&T Motors are responsible for this situation so they are responsible for resolving it. The customer is just supposed to purchase and enjoy the product.

The manufacturer is responsible for quality, consistency and continuity of the product.
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 11:24:01 AM »

Just got a couple emails about discontinued parts:

Hi Richard,

Is it normal for Korean vehicle companies to discontinue parts on vehicles only a few years old? I have a 5 year old Hyundai, should I be worried?


No, it is very unusual. In fact I only know one company that would do it - S&T Motors. You can bet that whoever is deciding to discontinue parts on vehicles less that 10 years old at S&T Motors would be very angry if Hyundai or Kia for example tried to do the same to their vehicles as they are doing to their customers vehicles. It would be a scandal if a car company tried that here and would be all over the news.

You can have confidence in your Korean made car - not so sure about your motorcycle. Perhaps contact S&T Motors and try to get some reassurance from them - in writing if possible.

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Richard Jordan
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 08:16:59 PM »

I have  been  thinking  about it  also.  they are  only  digital  read outs .  now  if  the  sensors  are  totally out of  wrack  then this  will not , work BUT if  the  brain of  the  speedometer is in the  head then I agree Looks  like t the  color  code is even the  same .  If  the  company  could just make  an adapter i bet the  2 would be interchangeable 
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 08:44:59 PM »

Solution to speedometer problem:

Jumper wire from ORANGE wire to RED wire..    Huh

I too bought a new speedometer for my 2007 GTR250, and was surprised that the rpm and digital didnt work, I quickly reviewed the wiring specs and found this to be the fix for the new speedo to work on older models... I have pics of the jump and it working, can post if needed.. Also if you have no electrical skills I can do the fix if you are willing to ship the speedo to me and pay me something for the effort?
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 09:09:40 PM »

Solution to speedometer problem:

Jumper wire from ORANGE wire to RED wire..    Huh

I too bought a new speedometer for my 2007 GTR250, and was surprised that the rpm and digital didnt work, I quickly reviewed the wiring specs and found this to be the fix for the new speedo to work on older models... I have pics of the jump and it working, can post if needed.. Also if you have no electrical skills I can do the fix if you are willing to ship the speedo to me and pay me something for the effort?

Welcome to ACD KDOGNVA, by all means post what you have, it sounds like some people might be looking for your solution - if its as easy a fix as you say then there may be some easily recovered "writeoffs"  Grin
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